is there a different expectation down state when you get to virtual indiana? >> absolutely right. when you look at interstate 80, the suburbs of chicago, a little farther out romney should roll up the numbers there but everything below interstate 80 is santorum country. the key challenge for santorum is because delegates are rewarded by district, can he make up enough in terms of the congressional districts in the southern part of the state to make it competitive in the delegate map where romney is expected to sweep in the counties around chicago. >> not in four counties, can he possibly make enough to come out for this not to be a disastrous night for him? he got 15 delegates awarded in the state convention in june, but if you're not eligible for 10 of those you're not going to do well even if you take 15. >> that's right. the santorum campaign thinks a good night for them, if they can get totally maybe 35, they would be thrilled. again, they feel feel like they've got a plan for being able to go after the delegates awarded on a state basis but again you look at the number of del